[HamWAN PSDR] Like to be certified :-)

Tom Hayward tom at tomh.us
Mon Aug 29 13:34:02 PDT 2016


As far as I know, HamWAN has always been pitched as a set of standards
and best practices, rather than a particular physical system.
Admittedly, we put a lot of time into running the reference
implementation of these standards in the Puget Sound area.

The portal doesn't do much. It's just another IPAM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_management#List_of_products
tailored to interface with the DNS server we're using here. As the
primary author of the portal, I'd say you will probably have just as
good or better of an experience using one of the more popular IPAM
suites.

Ryan has put quite a bit of work into deployment automation for
services: https://github.com/HamWAN/infrastructure-configs These are
psuedo-standards, in that you can use the automation to deploy
software exactly the way MemHamWAN does, but we're not enforcing any
standards at this level. The scope of required standards is limited to
the RF layer. This should at least keep you from having to "reinvent
the wheel", but if you want to deviate from what's provided here,
experiment, and even contribute alternatives, that's okay too.

Tom

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Conny Jonsson <n5hc at icloud.com> wrote:
> Understood.
>
> Just a (friendly) reminder.
>
> Seems to me that HamWAN is evolving into more of a concept then a particular physical system.
>
> Have there been any discussion about sharing and or distribution of HamWAN specific services/resources such as Portals etc. At the moment we forked of the Portal from GitHUB but it's like an island. Network monitoring also could be beneficial in shared/distributed manner. At the moment we run a Zabbix server.
>
> Adding the SSH keys (of trusted hams) to a "end" users device is an example of a Ham spirited way of "elmering". Specifically useful in an area like NM were there more "users" then it is HamWAN backend interested Hams.
>
> Just don't to like to reinvent the wheels.
>
>
> /Conny
> N5HC
>
>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Tom Hayward <tom at tomh.us> wrote:
>>
>> Conny,
>>
>> Sorry if you perceived this as being ignored. When we get the website
>> back up, we'll get you listed as Certified.
>>
>> Ryan said he could work on an Ansible role to verify modem config.
>> This would work by checking each of the settings Bart asked about and
>> printing an OK or listing any changes that need to be made. This will
>> add some much-needed structure to the Certification process.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Conny Jonsson <n5hc at icloud.com> wrote:
>>> Yes and agreed, have been lurking around for a quite awhile and been running
>>> these sectors for a bit we have a good idea how it works. But “standards”
>>> would help me personally as I’m kinda of bursty (work related) when it comes
>>> to supporting the site. So any “remote” community oversight/help of the site
>>> and the new users equipment would be aprciated.
>>>
>>> Answer to the questions:
>>>
>>> 1. Yes
>>> 2. Yes
>>> 3. Yes
>>> 4. Yes
>>>
>>> And I agree with the last part, backhaul etc is “just” Internet stuff. The
>>> unique is how we access it over the Ham Radio frequencies.
>>>
>>> How about having “roaming” IP addresses for HamWAN-configured modems? Not
>>> sure if we are there yet. But that would be one cool feature.
>>>
>>> 73 de N5HC
>>> /Conny
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 14, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bart Kus <me at bartk.us> wrote:
>>>
>>> Our certification process sucks presently.  I'd love to setup some kind of
>>> auditing/testing program that verifies your configs daily or weekly, and
>>> lets you know what parts of the standard might be mis-configured.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, let me ask some manual questions:
>>>
>>> 1) Is nv2-cell-radius=100 km?
>>> 2) Is tdma-period=4 ms?
>>> 3) Is dhcp-server running on the wlan1 sector interfaces?
>>> 4) Is ssid=HamWAN ?
>>>
>>> I need to re-arrange the website quite a bit to cut out 90% of the pages
>>> under "Standards" since they're not our standards.  Our standards are quite
>>> minimal and easy to comply with.  The rest can be called "best practices"
>>> (eg: internal network routing), but it's really up to you.  The spirit of
>>> having the standard is that a HamWAN-configured modem can be taken to any
>>> region and Just Work without the user having to change anything.
>>>
>>> --Bart
>>>
>>> On 8/14/2016 9:10 AM, Conny Jonsson wrote:
>>>
>>> In addition:
>>>
>>> Also we have been running our own http://www.hamwan.org/t/Servers.html
>>> (DNS/NTP/Portal) and a Syslog/Zabbix server. Have a Jabber Server running.
>>>
>>> We have not formally organized our self but we have all the hardware up and
>>> running we have access to county microwave links for backhaul.
>>>
>>> Two counties have hardware installed for access at their EOC’s. The hams at
>>> the VA hospital have hardware wired in too.
>>>
>>> 10+ Allstar Repeaters linked.
>>>
>>> Just not that good at marketing our self as some of you guys.
>>>
>>> I’m sticking to the technical stuff.
>>>
>>> /Conny
>>>
>>> On Aug 14, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Conny Jonsson <n5hc at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> We have two operational sectors on top of Sandia Crest (+10000’), third
>>> sector will be located on another tower further north:
>>> • Uses NV2 TDMA mode
>>> • Use the 10 MHz or 5 MHz in 10 MHz channels frequency plan with 120
>>> degree sectors
>>> • Network is routable (IPIP) on the Internet.
>>>
>>> 73 de N5HC
>>>
>>> /Conny
>>>
>>>
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