[HamWAN PSDR] Bill of Materials for Cell Site

Randy Neals randy at neals.ca
Wed Apr 24 01:18:39 PDT 2019


Somewhat related... Which is to say distributing connectivity on a local
basis to stations which cannot access HamWAN directly....

The West Seattle Group is exploring a 2.4 GHZ AREDN Mesh Network to fill in
some coverage holes.
We're fortunate to have 5 permanent HamWAN client stations in West Seattle,
but have others who are interested but cant connect due to Trees/Topography.
We're hoping that a Mesh operating on 2.397 or 2.402 (Ham specific
frequencies) might extend connectivity to include more users.

https://www.arednmesh.org/

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 1:14 PM Dylan Ambauen <dylan at ambauen.com> wrote:

> Jamie,
> As a Kitsap resident, I am also interested in your project, and would like
> to help.
> Let's meet up in Bremerton. I can help with your Bill of Materials
> questions... weighing the various options will certainly be easier in a 30
> minute discussion, and I can give you a visual on the HamWAN gear we use to
> host a server for PNW DMR. I have some spare gear too, for field tests.
> Please contact me off-list.
>
> KI7SBI
> Dylan
>
> ---
> Dylan Ambauen
> 360-850-1200
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 1:08 PM Rob Salsgiver <rob at nr3o.com> wrote:
>
>> Jamie,
>>
>>
>>
>> Good to meet you.  It is entirely possible and authorized – even
>> encouraged.  I just held a discussion on the topic at Comm Academy this
>> year, and part of the focus was on building communications “communities”.
>>
>>
>>
>> Most of the initial focus is usually getting a location connected to the
>> HamWAN “backbone” – or one of the high level mountain-top sites.  This is
>> almost never possible when looking at an entire community, so it makes
>> sense to build local cells to connect facilities within the community.  In
>> an ideal world your local community would create 2 or 3 cells, allowing
>> each key facility with town to be connected to 2 sites for redundancy.  In
>> turn, the community “hub” if you will, would also have 2 or more
>> connections out to the Puget Sound HamWAN backbone for connections to the
>> rest of the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> In the event that the trunks out to the Puget Sound HamWAN backbone are
>> taken down, you still have communications within your community between
>> fire, police, city hall, school district, public works, shelter sites, or
>> whomever else you want to add.
>>
>>
>>
>> Because each site and case is different, a fixed Bill of Materials is
>> hard to nail down.  We can easily give you a few examples, but your needs
>> will be unique to who(m) you want to connect, and how you want to connect
>> them.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would encourage you to start gathering a list of points you would like
>> to connect (names, phone numbers, addresses, GPS coordinates).  With this
>> you can start doing some ground-work on good starting sites to explore and
>> how many facilities can be covered by them.
>>
>>
>>
>> You may already be a mile ahead of me on some of this, if so I
>> apologize.  Even so it may be good for others on the list.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have a list of potential client and cell sites you are focused on,
>> let me know and I can help look at coverage maps to see how it lays out.
>>
>>
>>
>> General ball-park costs are as follows:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1)      Single-dish connected client site - $600 (includes uplink dish
>> and radio, access point and site router, and VOIP phoe)
>>
>> 2)      Dual-dish connected client site - $900-$1100 (similar to above,
>> connecting to 2 or more other sites)
>>
>> 3)      Fully populated cell site - $2500-$4500, depending on number of
>> links, sectors, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Give a shout if you have more questions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rob Salsgiver – NR3O
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces at hamwan.org] *On Behalf Of *Jamie Hughes
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 23, 2019 10:16 AM
>> *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring
>> *Subject:* [HamWAN PSDR] Bill of Materials for Cell Site
>>
>>
>>
>> Good Morning,
>>
>>
>>
>> The Kitsap Auxiliary Radio Service (KARS), DEM affiliate organization,
>> would like to investigate the deployment possibility of a low altitude ring
>> between sites, yet to be identified. The idea would be to build out a few
>> cell sites just at lower altitudes that hopefully create a backup/redundant
>> data ring if possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> If this is possible and authorized, may I please get a bill of materials
>> and approximate cost of those materials.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> *Jamie Hughes*
>>
>> WA7JH
>>
>> Mobile: (360) 340-8886 <+13603408886>
>>
>>
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