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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Well, I just applied for a /20 with
AMPRNet for HamWAN. We'll see what they say.<br>
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--Bart<br>
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On 2/7/2013 12:27 PM, Bart Kus wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I've thought about this quite a bit
over the last few months. I'd like us to take a multi-net
approach here. I think HamWAN is the exact kind of network that
Net-44 aims to please, so I'd like to deploy Net-44 subnets
here. This will allow easy peering with ISPs once HamWAN gets
an Autonomous System Number (ASN). However, IPv4 address space
may be an issue, if not for technical than possibly for
political reasons. So use of Net-44 space may be limited to the
most public endpoints of communication. Only experience will
tell.<br>
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To mitigate the risks of Net-44 use, I think it makes sense for
HamWAN to register (a) public IPv6 block(s). There ought to be
plenty of these around, and it'd be good to avoid NAT where
possible. Just one of these IPv6 /64 networks should be enough
for all foreseeable purposes. The tricky part is it may be
impossible to get a block without an ASN. And it's impossible
to get an ASN without existing multi-homed ISP contracts.
Correct me if I'm wrong here. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.apnic.net/__data/assets/pdf_file/0009/23994/how-to-get-initial-ipv6-block.pdf">Relevant
doc</a>. Have not read it all yet, feel free to decode. :)<br>
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Which leaves us with the old private IP space. The problem of
using this is possible collisions with private IP space used by
individuals' home networks. This can be mitigated by using
private IPv6 space, which very few people will be using on their
home networks right now. But I suspect that situation will
change as time passes and we'll once again be in trouble.<br>
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One last consideration is network device compatibility. Does
your VoIP device have IPv6? How about your (possibly old) home
router? Net-44 makes a lot of sense in these scenarios. What
about the devices trying to access HamWAN's resources from the
outside world? Does your ISP allow you to route to an IPv6
HamWAN address? Asking people to dial into IPv6 tunnelling
services is a further barrier to entry.<br>
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So to wrap it up, I'd like HamWAN to register for a fairly big
chunk of Net-44 (/20?), register at least one IPv6 block, and
get an ASN. From there we'll have the resources to conduct
subnet allocation to users & infrastructure without worrying
about collisions. But in the immediate term, we'll likely end
up using private space. :-/<br>
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--Bart<br>
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On 02/07/2013 11:54 AM, Rob Salsgiver wrote:<br>
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may have missed this somewhere on the site, but is there
an IP plan yet? Are we looking to use 44 net space, or
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