<div dir="ltr">Unless I've misunderstood the point of this network all together, there shouldn't be a case where we want the entire network address space to be reachable from the global internet. It's much more likely that the network will remain as autonomous as possible and any connections to the internet will be for connecting specific services through a gateway of some sort.<div>
<br></div><div style>A subnet of at least /23 (typical minimum for global BGP announcements) should be reserved for the purpose of being globally routable in the future, if/when HamWAN decides to peer with one or more ISPs. An address in the /23 can be given to each service gateway for connecting to the internet.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>The rest of the 44-net allocation can be treated as private address space, except that it's essentially guaranteed not to cause conflicts with the user-level networks since it's still globally unique.</div>
<div style><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Bart Kus <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:me@bartk.us" target="_blank">me@bartk.us</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Clever ;)<br>
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What if HamWAN switches ISPs? All that IPv6 space would need to
be given up. It can't follow you AFAIK. Or the ISP may charge
whatever they feel like to let you take it with you. Also bad.<br>
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The fees for IPv6 are not as low as I had hoped, but not as high
as you think either! There's a 25% discount in effect for
"extra-small" allocations (which are still larger than the entire
IPv4 internet). The cost looks to be $937.50/yr. Not sure it's
worth the cost, given the IPv4 AMPRnet situation. We can very
likely just expand our AMPRnet allocation if we out-grow the /20.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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--Bart</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 2/13/2013 1:10 AM, Cory (NQ1E) wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Here's an IPv6 allocation for you ;)
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<div>::ffff:<a href="http://44.24.240.0/116" target="_blank">44.24.240.0/116</a></div>
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<div>With the obvious exception of AMPRNet addresses
for amateur radio use, IP allocations should come from an ISP.
Obtaining a direct allocation from ARIN would cost around a
couple grand per year.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:46 AM, Bart
Kus <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:me@bartk.us" target="_blank">me@bartk.us</a>></span>
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Result: APPROVED<br>
Your allocated subnet is: <a href="tel:44.24.240.0%20%2F%2020" value="+14424240020" target="_blank">44.24.240.0 / 20</a><br>
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<a href="https://portal.ampr.org/networks.php?a=region&id=191" target="_blank">https://portal.ampr.org/networks.php?a=region&id=191</a><br>
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HamWAN now has 4096 real Internet IPs to play with. Next
up: we gotta crack the mystery of getting IPv6 net space.
Any volunteers? :)<br>
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What an incredibly productive day,<br>
<br>
--Bart<br>
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