<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small">Bart,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small">
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small">You might want to search the archives of the PNWVHFS mail reflector, I seem to remember a thread about a year ago where this kind of thing was discussed. It was in the context of getting people their VUCC for 2.4 and 5Ghz, which requires only four grids. The thread discussed having a group of operators at a particular mountain site and an experience rover drive through four grids and give out contacts. All the shots were line of sight and well tested.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small">I'll poke around and see if I can find it, but it might provide some options now that the weather is getting nicer.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small">
Kenny</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Bart Kus <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:me@bartk.us" target="_blank">me@bartk.us</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Our primary test site turned out to be inaccessible, so we had to fallback to another test site. We ended up NOT having clear line of sight over the 7.23 mile shot. In fact, about 900 meters of the shot went through the tops of evergreen trees. That makes this test invalid.<br>
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Having said that, the received signal strength from the +10dBm transmitter was about -100dBm, which is 40dB below projected values. So about 105dB of path loss if you discount the cable losses.<br>
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We then hooked up the modems which run +30dBm and they were able to establish a 39Mbit air speed link. Link quality was about 60% both ways. Throughput tests showed 30Mbit(min) to 33Mbit(max) data transmission rate. Speeds were the same in both directions. It was nice and steady, with good ping times throughout. Very well behaved despite the harsh conditions. The radios reported -75dBm signal. The math predicts -85dBm should have been reported. The radios are not calibrated measurement devices though, so a 10dB error is not surprising.<br>
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This whole test needs to be re-done with actual line-of-sight conditions to get a good reading on path loss in free space. A couple sites look possible on satellite but need to be verified on the ground for suitability. They're only 6.9 and 6.7 miles long though. It's tough getting good clear long distance shots in publicly available places. If anyone wants to volunteer to help out with follow-up tests, let me know. If you know of a good long distance LoS option, also let me know.<br>
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--Bart<br>
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