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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">OK, one thing is loud and clear. We
need mobile signal testing stations. I will try to spread some
extra gear out to anyone in the group who would like to provide a
mobile signal survey service to potential users, and has the
skills to operate the gear.<br>
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We'll also try to get pre-configured modems going. I'd like to
sell these @ a slight premium to just the bare hardware, with the
profit being a HamWAN donation.<br>
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The applications will come with time. We're presently working on
getting the server infrastructure in place to run applications in
the first place. BTW, Scott, can I co-locate a 1U server @
Paine? I have it being setup here in my rack right now, but it'd
be better to have it @ Paine. It's an HP DL360 G5.<br>
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--Bart<br>
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On 10/3/2013 3:48 PM, Scott Honaker wrote:<br>
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<div>I see three issues</div>
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<div><strong>1. Coverage - Will it work for me?</strong></div>
<div>That's coming along nicely but is far from universal. Some
demos at some events could really make a difference. If we
can hook a couple EOCs together, we'll really have something!
I can get introductions into most any EOC in the area, if we
have the coverage to do a demo for them. Perhaps some loaner
units (for a small donation) would be interesting.</div>
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<div><strong>2. Ease of installation - How can I play?</strong></div>
<div>The price point is fantastic - about the same price as a 2m
mobile radio. The web site is very helpful but a bit
overwhelming for a newbie. More concise steps of what to buy
and how to make it work would be helpful. Bart mentioned
offering preconfigured radios. I love that idea! Plug it in,
point the antenna and play. </div>
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<div><strong>3. Applications - What can I do with it?</strong></div>
<div>Rob hinted at this with the DRATS suggestion. DRATS has a
Telnet mode that supports chat, file transfer, email and forms
- all the emcomm applications in a single package. Showing
someone another network to run Outlook over isn't particularly
compelling. What if Internet access is lost to your mail
server? Well then you can't run Outlook on any network. We
need some native HAMWAN applications. A "Ratflector" is an
easy one, Chat, Video Conferencing, VoIP phone service, what
else? I have some server space at the Everett site with a
65KW UPS and 250KW generator. We can make that stuff live on
the network but need a champion for those services.</div>
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<div>Scott N7SS</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Tom
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a stab at a few of these points and defer the others...<br>
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On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Rob Salsgiver <<a
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> 2) End-users (individual): We need to get more
of our core online and<br>
> well versed in the system. From those early users we
need a few in each<br>
> county or metro area that are willing to do site
surveys and interact with<br>
> other potential end users to get them onboard. We
need to focus on our<br>
> marketing, getting the message out (with success
stories), and more end-user<br>
> demonstrations – not just the equipment, but from an
application standpoint.<br>
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I'll come out and do a site survey anywhere in Pierce
County.<br>
<br>
I'll run a custom propagation model for anyone anywhere.
This will<br>
tell you how tall of a tower you need to get HamWAN. HamWAN
covers<br>
everything within 100 miles of a site if you have a tall
enough tower<br>
;-)<br>
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> 3) End-users (EMCOMM): We need some served
agencies online. We need<br>
> advocates outside of the ham world. Hospitals, Red
Cross, Emergency<br>
> Management offices, Salvation Army, maybe even a
mobile station. If we have<br>
> 3-4 hospitals, Red Cross chapters, or similar served
agencies successfully<br>
> hooked up, we have a working demonstration platform
to work from. Even<br>
> then, basic connectivity isn’t. We need hams in
these locations to<br>
> demonstrate on an applications basis what can be done
“when all else fails”<br>
> over HamWAN. If we can convince 30-50 different
served agencies to shell<br>
> out the cost of a single cell phone each month to
support a dedicated<br>
> Internet connection that is disaster-resilient, then
you have up to<br>
> $2500/month coming in to support the infrastructure.
Demonstrate email, web<br>
> access, and maybe even some specialized goodies
targeted at them – use<br>
> D-RATs for a tactical “chat” interface between
locations – who knows? Maybe<br>
> interface with other digital gateways or extend over
other RF links<br>
> (D-Star?).<br>
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The Snohomish County EOC is online with HamWAN. I'd like to
see other<br>
EOCs come online, but we don't have contacts there. HamWAN
could be<br>
very useful for EOC-to-EOC communications (sending video,
phone,<br>
etc.).<br>
<br>
If you have contacts in the EmComm world, talk to them! Or
see if we<br>
can schedule a presentation.<br>
<br>
Heh, D-Rats is a patch to make D-Star useful. We can just
show them<br>
email, "Look, you can still use Outlook!" Service decoupled
from<br>
network: awesome.<br>
<br>
I don't see Internet as the end goal of HamWAN. HamWAN can
facilitate<br>
communications between hams. EOC-to-EOC communication can
take place<br>
completely over the HamWAN RF network, until a hole opens up
in the<br>
earth and swallows one of our sites. Then we just route
around the<br>
outage with Internet; communication continues.<br>
<br>
Tom KD7LXL<br>
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