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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hope you won't need that 5500 back
soon, still hacking away on the control software for the 4D
scanner. The rotor control part is all done actually, and now I'm
(slowly) starting on the instrument control aspects. Spent a week
or more trying to locate my GPIB controller due to the house
move. Finally found it now, but still gotta wire the GPIB bus to
the instruments. Gotta put a hole in the house to run cables
outside. Multitasking this with standing up network services,
home renovating, HamWAN Lab gear expansion (YES!), etc, and it
goes slowly.<br>
<br>
Good idea on the signal surveys, we need more of those. Please
record your peak signal @ each GPS location, and send them back to
us for adding to a database. We should probably have instructions
on how to do this, but basically use scan mode. You should also
associate afterwards and measure data speed (there is no auth
required on any of the bandwidth-test servers). But we don't
track that in the DB right now.<br>
<br>
Email coming up on HamWAN Lab expansion.<br>
<br>
--Bart<br>
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On 10/5/2013 7:29 PM, Rob Salsgiver wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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have a couple of things I’ll be working on:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
have a trailer mounted tower (35-40’), so I’ll be working on
a setup with an az/el rotor that will allow me to elevate
and connect if a paths is available. Probably have an AP up
at that height and/or down on the trailer as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’ll
also get another dish or grid (or two) and create a manual
setup that I can take roof-top to some of our hospitals, Red
Cross, or other locations to test from there. Once these
are ready they can be used anywhere, but for the most part I
live and move around in Snohomish County.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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PSDR [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org">mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bart
Kus<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 04, 2013 9:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psdr@hamwan.org">psdr@hamwan.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Facts about ham
fundraising<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">OK, one thing is loud and clear. We need
mobile signal testing stations. I will try to spread some
extra gear out to anyone in the group who would like to
provide a mobile signal survey service to potential users,
and has the skills to operate the gear.<br>
<br>
We'll also try to get pre-configured modems going. I'd like
to sell these @ a slight premium to just the bare hardware,
with the profit being a HamWAN donation.<br>
<br>
The applications will come with time. We're presently
working on getting the server infrastructure in place to run
applications in the first place. BTW, Scott, can I
co-locate a 1U server @ Paine? I have it being setup here
in my rack right now, but it'd be better to have it @
Paine. It's an HP DL360 G5.<br>
<br>
--Bart<br>
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On 10/3/2013 3:48 PM, Scott Honaker wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I see three issues<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>1. Coverage - Will it work
for me?</strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That's coming along nicely but is far
from universal. Some demos at some events could really
make a difference. If we can hook a couple EOCs
together, we'll really have something! I can get
introductions into most any EOC in the area, if we have
the coverage to do a demo for them. Perhaps some loaner
units (for a small donation) would be interesting.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>2. Ease of installation -
How can I play?</strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The price point is fantastic - about
the same price as a 2m mobile radio. The web site is
very helpful but a bit overwhelming for a newbie. More
concise steps of what to buy and how to make it work
would be helpful. Bart mentioned offering preconfigured
radios. I love that idea! Plug it in, point the
antenna and play. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>3. Applications - What can I
do with it?</strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Rob hinted at this with the DRATS
suggestion. DRATS has a Telnet mode that supports chat,
file transfer, email and forms - all the emcomm
applications in a single package. Showing someone
another network to run Outlook over isn't particularly
compelling. What if Internet access is lost to your
mail server? Well then you can't run Outlook on any
network. We need some native HAMWAN applications. A
"Ratflector" is an easy one, Chat, Video Conferencing,
VoIP phone service, what else? I have some server space
at the Everett site with a 65KW UPS and 250KW
generator. We can make that stuff live on the network
but need a champion for those services.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Scott N7SS<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Tom
Hayward <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:esarfl@gmail.com" target="_blank">esarfl@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I'll take a stab at a few of these
points and defer the others...<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Rob Salsgiver <<a
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> 2) End-users (individual): We need to get
more of our core online and<br>
> well versed in the system. From those early
users we need a few in each<br>
> county or metro area that are willing to do site
surveys and interact with<br>
> other potential end users to get them onboard.
We need to focus on our<br>
> marketing, getting the message out (with success
stories), and more end-user<br>
> demonstrations – not just the equipment, but from
an application standpoint.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'll come out and do a site survey
anywhere in Pierce County.<br>
<br>
I'll run a custom propagation model for anyone anywhere.
This will<br>
tell you how tall of a tower you need to get HamWAN.
HamWAN covers<br>
everything within 100 miles of a site if you have a tall
enough tower<br>
;-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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> 3) End-users (EMCOMM): We need some served
agencies online. We need<br>
> advocates outside of the ham world. Hospitals,
Red Cross, Emergency<br>
> Management offices, Salvation Army, maybe even a
mobile station. If we have<br>
> 3-4 hospitals, Red Cross chapters, or similar
served agencies successfully<br>
> hooked up, we have a working demonstration
platform to work from. Even<br>
> then, basic connectivity isn’t. We need hams in
these locations to<br>
> demonstrate on an applications basis what can be
done “when all else fails”<br>
> over HamWAN. If we can convince 30-50 different
served agencies to shell<br>
> out the cost of a single cell phone each month to
support a dedicated<br>
> Internet connection that is disaster-resilient,
then you have up to<br>
> $2500/month coming in to support the
infrastructure. Demonstrate email, web<br>
> access, and maybe even some specialized goodies
targeted at them – use<br>
> D-RATs for a tactical “chat” interface between
locations – who knows? Maybe<br>
> interface with other digital gateways or extend
over other RF links<br>
> (D-Star?).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The Snohomish County EOC is online
with HamWAN. I'd like to see other<br>
EOCs come online, but we don't have contacts there.
HamWAN could be<br>
very useful for EOC-to-EOC communications (sending
video, phone,<br>
etc.).<br>
<br>
If you have contacts in the EmComm world, talk to them!
Or see if we<br>
can schedule a presentation.<br>
<br>
Heh, D-Rats is a patch to make D-Star useful. We can
just show them<br>
email, "Look, you can still use Outlook!" Service
decoupled from<br>
network: awesome.<br>
<br>
I don't see Internet as the end goal of HamWAN. HamWAN
can facilitate<br>
communications between hams. EOC-to-EOC communication
can take place<br>
completely over the HamWAN RF network, until a hole
opens up in the<br>
earth and swallows one of our sites. Then we just route
around the<br>
outage with Internet; communication continues.<br>
<br>
Tom KD7LXL<br>
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