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    Which RP2D?  K7LWH or NR7SS?  I heard you on K7LWH DV-A ...<br>
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    Did you read the Icom and/or K5TIT documentation?  [Lurkers:  that's
    my idea of humor ...]<br>
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    ps:  John:  Since an Icom gateway is dual-homed at 10.0.0.2
    (Internet gateway 10.0.0.1) and 172.16.0.20, if one wants to put
    another box on the local 10.x.x.x network, are there any 10.x.x.x
    addresses that are reserved/available for local use, without being
    assigned/preempted by the US Trust system?  Otherwise, I suppose I
    could do port-forwarding on the box into the 172.16.x.x network, and
    allocate one there ...<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2014-04-27 19:02, John D. Hays
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">BTW,  I through a bunch of packets at the RP2D.  I
        think it was replying but I wasn't able to get IP level
        responses.</div>
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            John D. Hays<br>
            <span style="color:rgb(128,128,128)">K7VE</span></div>
          <div style="float:right;text-align:right">PO Box 1223,
            Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Dean
          Gibson AE7Q <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:hamwan@ae7q.com" target="_blank">hamwan@ae7q.com</a>></span>
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            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I had to Google to
              find out what P2MP was, but in my VERY brief Google
              education on the subject, I don't think it applies.<br>
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              The radio doesn't multiplex anything.<br>
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              The consumer-grade routers I own (Linksys BEFSR41, Netgear
              WGT624v2) seem to have no way to turn off NAT.  dd-wrt is
              not possible with the BEFSR41;  it is "work-in-progress"
              for the WGT624v2.  NAT seems to make routing issues a
              little more complex to think through.  Both routers have
              the ability to specify a "DMZ host", but I think that just
              turns on universal NAT to that host.  Both routers have
              the capability of manually adding entries to a static
              routing table, but I don't know if that skips over the
              NAT.  If we have to have NAT, it seems to me that the best
              way to set up the router is with the radio connected to
              the LAN side (with whatever private IP address we want),
              and have the WAN side connected to the 44.x.x.x network. 
              That allows incoming (ie, via the radio)  packets to go
              wherever they can and responses to come back; whereas
              orienting the router the other way (unless we use the "DMZ
              host" feature) doesn't.  I suppose I could donate one of
              my (very) elderly (2005) Dell PowerEdge 1650 1U servers to
              the effort, but that seems like a bit of overkill ...<br>
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              What I think would be a good idea is to meet and discuss
              this face-to-face (pretty much anytime) with diagrams,
              rather than shoveling eMails back and forth.  Scott, if
              your schedule permits, you are more than welcome.<span
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                  -- Dean<br>
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              ps: Scott, I plan to come to the DEM on Tuesday to start
              on this, unless you're not going to be there, or other
              conditions (like ongoing slide work) make it a bad idea.
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                  <div>On 2014-04-27 12:06, Bart Kus wrote:<br>
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                    <div>OK, we can slap some extra security on there. 
                      Shouldn't need an extra router for that.<br>
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                      What about the PtMP story?  One of the advantages
                      you mentioned (Dean) was mobile access.  Can it
                      multiplex access somehow?<br>
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                      --Bart<br>
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                      On 4/27/2014 9:53 AM, Dean Gibson AE7Q wrote:<br>
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                    <blockquote type="cite"> Exactly (or the
                      equivalent).<br>
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                      <div>On 2014-04-27 09:34, John Hays wrote:<br>
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                        <div>It should be on a dedicated router on its
                          own segment.  <br>
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                          Sent from my iPhone</div>
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                          On Apr 27, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Dean Gibson AE7Q
                          <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                          wrote:<br>
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                          <div> The only "authentication" the radio has,
                            are the following:<br>
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                              <li>The radio can be set to only receive
                                remote transmissions that include a
                                two-digit decimal code; <b>or</b></li>
                              <li>The radio can be set to only receive
                                remote transmissions that are addressed
                                to the callsign programmed into the
                                receiving radio (I would recommend this
                                setting).<br>
                              </li>
                            </ol>
                            Any other authentication would have to be
                            provided by a router or firewall.<br>
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                            <div>On 2014-04-26 22:39, Bart Kus wrote:<br>
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                            <blockquote type="cite">Any packets on that
                              LAN are considered trusted since they
                              passed authentication.  What's the auth
                              story on the 23cm modems? <br>
                              <br>
                              --Bart <br>
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                              On 4/26/2014 10:37 PM, Tom Hayward wrote:
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                              <blockquote type="cite">On Sat, Apr 26,
                                2014 at 9:26 PM, Dean Gibson AE7Q <a
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                                  href="mailto:hamwan@ae7q.com"
                                  target="_blank"><hamwan@ae7q.com></a>
                                wrote: <br>
                                <blockquote type="cite">At the Snohomish
                                  County DEM, place a router (or bridge)
                                  between the ID-1 and the 44.24.240.x
                                  network. <br>
                                  In this scenario, the ID-1 located at
                                  my house would also be connected to a
                                  router that acts as though it were
                                  directly connected to the 44.24.240.x
                                  (or any other) network at the DEM. <br>
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                                We have a router at Snohomish County DEM
                                with an extra port that could be used
                                for this. The subnet there is <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="tel:44.24.240.128"
                                  value="+14424240128" target="_blank">44.24.240.128</a>/28.
                                We have another subnet of address pairs
                                set aside for router-to-router links. So
                                as far as networking goes, we could
                                execute your plan. I can't commend about
                                the feasibility of any of the other
                                bits. <br>
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