<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_129568">Bart,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_130785" class="" dir="ltr">The antenna now at -82 dBm is the Laird SA58-90-17-WB vertically polarized sector antenna--the one in the photograph.  At my test reference spot, at 6-feet above ground level, this antenna (Laird SA58-90-17-WB) has -77 dBm as the best LOS signal.  At this reference spot, on the tripod at ground level, the best LOS signal that I get on my (Laird) mesh dish is -69 dBm.  I don't have a reading from my<font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_130571" size="3"> Poynting Antennas K-GRID-003-06</font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_129947" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_129946" dir="ltr">I got too tired (and it's too dark) to traipse through the mini-forest in my back yard.  I will adjust tomorrow (in the morning before it starts raining).<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_129565"><span></span></div>73 from Dan at K7MM<br> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_128122" class="qtdSeparateBR"><br></div><div style="display: block;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_128126" class="yahoo_quoted">  <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_128125" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_128124" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_128123" dir="ltr"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_128128" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_129563" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Bart Kus <me@bartk.us><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> psdr@hamwan.org <br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_129661"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_129660" style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 18, 2016 8:10 PM<br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_131347"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_131346" style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Kitsap County Gold Mountain HamWAN Attempts, Dish and Sector Antennas K7MM<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_128131" class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv8956477750"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_128130">
    What antenna is giving you that -82dBm reading?  That's quite low
    for a LoS shot.  I hope we don't have a vertical alignment problem
    with the sector.<br clear="none">
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    --Bart<br clear="none">
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    <div class="yiv8956477750yqt9641165358" id="yiv8956477750yqt94984"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_129662" class="yiv8956477750moz-cite-prefix">On 1/18/2016 6:44 PM, Daniel Ransom via
      PSDR wrote:<br clear="none">
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        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_111482">It's
          working!  I had the sector antenna/Metal S5HPn high in the
          tree at the peak of the (leafless) canopy with -88 dB signal
          and lots of lost packets.  I tried a position under the canopy
          (after a little chain-saw work clearing branches for the
          positioning ropes)—voila:  -82 dB received signal with good,
          fast timing and few lost packets.  It's 330 feet of shielded
          cable into the K7MM hamshack.  When I transmit on 80 meters it
          reboots the modem--the cable is parallel with my
          off-center-fed dipole.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_111853">I ordered
          the QRT-5 integrated panel and MIMO radio, so we will see how
          much better is the signal on this new hardware.</div>
        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_112018">73 from
          Dan at K7MM</div>
        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_112022">509 330
          6398<br clear="none">
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                  Ransom <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8956477750moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:danra995@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:danra995@yahoo.com"><danra995@yahoo.com></a><br clear="none">
                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b>
                  Puget Sound Data Ring <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8956477750moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:psdr@hamwan.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:psdr@hamwan.org"><psdr@hamwan.org></a> <br clear="none">
                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                  Sunday, January 17, 2016 6:50 PM<br clear="none">
                  <b id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_111396"><span id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_111395" style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
                  [HamWAN PSDR] Kitsap County Gold Mountain HamWAN
                  Attempts, Dish and Sector Antennas K7MM<br clear="none">
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                      <div id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_111506">Nigel,</div>
                      <div id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_26910">Of
                        course, now that you explain it, it makes
                        sense.  Thank you.  More to report tomorrow!</div>
                      <div id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_26909">73
                        from Dan at K7MM</div>
                      <div id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_26908">509
                        330 6398<br clear="none">
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                                Nigel Vander Houwen
                                <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8956477750moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:nigel@nigelvh.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:nigel@nigelvh.com"><nigel@nigelvh.com></a><br clear="none">
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                                Puget Sound Data Ring
                                <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8956477750moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:psdr@hamwan.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:psdr@hamwan.org"><psdr@hamwan.org></a> <br clear="none">
                                <b id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_111407"><span id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_111406" style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                                Sunday, January 17, 2016 6:30 PM<br clear="none">
                                <b id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_111469"><span id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_111468" style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                                Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Kitsap County Gold
                                Mountain HamWAN Attempts, Dish and
                                Sector Antennas K7MM<br clear="none">
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                                    <div class="yiv8956477750" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_26912">Dan,</div>
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                                    <div class="yiv8956477750" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_26915">I
                                      think there’s a bit of confusion
                                      here. From what you’re describing
                                      about pinging google, and the
                                      screenshot you provided, the modem
                                      is getting an IP from the network
                                      properly, and has full
                                      communications.</div>
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                                    <div class="yiv8956477750" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_26917">I
                                      think what you’re seeing is that
                                      your laptop/computer connected to
                                      the modem may not be getting an IP
                                      address, which wouldn’t come from
                                      the network, but instead from the
                                      modem itself.</div>
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                                    <div class="yiv8956477750" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_26919">In
                                      step 12 of the client
                                      configuration instructions we have
                                      you disable the modem from
                                      providing DHCP to devices to make
                                      sure the modem doesn’t interfere
                                      with your home network if you plug
                                      it in there. If you plug the modem
                                      into your home network, you can
                                      give it an IP on your network on
                                      the modem’s ethernet interface, or
                                      if you plan on it being a separate
                                      network where DHCP wouldn’t
                                      interfere, you can add that back
                                      to the ethernet interface as well.</div>
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                                    <div class="yiv8956477750" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_26921">This
                                      latter scenario is described in
                                      the “Next Steps” section of the
                                      client configuration instructions
                                      page, but we don’t make it the
                                      default because everyone’s use
                                      case will be different.</div>
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                                    <div class="yiv8956477750" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_26923">Nigel</div>
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                                          <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_128194" class="yiv8956477750">On
                                            Jan 17, 2016, at 18:07,
                                            Daniel Ransom <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8956477750" ymailto="mailto:danra995@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:danra995@yahoo.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8956477750moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:danra995@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:danra995@yahoo.com">danra995@yahoo.com</a>>
                                            wrote:</div>
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                                                <div class="yiv8956477750" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_19046">Bart,</div>
                                                <div class="yiv8956477750" dir="ltr" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_19047">Thanks
                                                  for the advice on the
                                                  QRT-5.  It looks very
                                                  nice; I might upgrade
                                                  to that.  With my
                                                  vertically polarized
                                                  sector antenna I found
                                                  -77 dBm this
                                                  afternoon, and when I
                                                  rotated the antenna 90
                                                  degrees (now
                                                  horizontal) my best
                                                  was -88 dBm.  Again,
                                                  this is a
                                                  line-of-sight path at
                                                  5 feet above the
                                                  ground (possible
                                                  Fresnel-zone
                                                  problem?).<br class="yiv8956477750" clear="none">
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                                                <div class="yiv8956477750" dir="ltr" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_19401">Today
                                                  I had good results
                                                  with my  MikroTik
                                                  Metal 5SHPn
                                                  transceiver modem
                                                  (reprogrammed with
                                                  v6.32.3) and the
                                                  sector antenna.  This
                                                  time my connection
                                                  attempt was mostly
                                                  okay!  I could see
                                                  network activity on
                                                  tool > traceroute
                                                  8.8.8.8 (see
                                                  attached), and I could
                                                  ping <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8956477750" target="_blank" href="http://google.com/">google.com</a>,
                                                  averaging around 80 ms
                                                  (median about 40 ms). 
                                                  However, I could not
                                                  get an IP address from
                                                  the network. Any ideas
                                                  why?<br class="yiv8956477750" clear="none">
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                                                <div class="yiv8956477750" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_19402"><span class="yiv8956477750" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_19244">So, next it's up into
                                                    the trees behind my
                                                    house (tomorrow). 
                                                    Already I have a
                                                    dacron rope
                                                    there--placed with
                                                    my trusty KR4LO Air
                                                    Boss pneumatic line
                                                    launcher.  Down the
                                                    tree and into the
                                                    hamshack it's 330
                                                    feet, so I'm right
                                                    at the edge of the
                                                    maximum cable run. 
                                                    Definitely, I will
                                                    be injecting 24 Vdc!</span></div>
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