<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_129568">Bart,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_130785" class="" dir="ltr">The antenna now at -82 dBm is the Laird SA58-90-17-WB vertically polarized sector antenna--the one in the photograph. At my test reference spot, at 6-feet above ground level, this antenna (Laird SA58-90-17-WB) has -77 dBm as the best LOS signal. At this reference spot, on the tripod at ground level, the best LOS signal that I get on my (Laird) mesh dish is -69 dBm. I don't have a reading from my<font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_130571" size="3"> Poynting Antennas K-GRID-003-06</font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_129947" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_129946" dir="ltr">I got too tired (and it's too dark) to traipse through the mini-forest in my back yard. I will adjust tomorrow (in the morning before it starts raining).<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_129565"><span></span></div>73 from Dan at K7MM<br> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_128122" class="qtdSeparateBR"><br></div><div style="display: block;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_128126" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_128125" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_128124" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_128123" dir="ltr"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_128128" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_129563" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Bart Kus <me@bartk.us><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> psdr@hamwan.org <br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_129661"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_129660" style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 18, 2016 8:10 PM<br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_131347"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_131346" style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Kitsap County Gold Mountain HamWAN Attempts, Dish and Sector Antennas K7MM<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_128131" class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv8956477750"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_128130">
What antenna is giving you that -82dBm reading? That's quite low
for a LoS shot. I hope we don't have a vertical alignment problem
with the sector.<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv8956477750yqt9641165358" id="yiv8956477750yqt94984"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_129662" class="yiv8956477750moz-cite-prefix">On 1/18/2016 6:44 PM, Daniel Ransom via
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<div dir="ltr" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_111482">It's
working! I had the sector antenna/Metal S5HPn high in the
tree at the peak of the (leafless) canopy with -88 dB signal
and lots of lost packets. I tried a position under the canopy
(after a little chain-saw work clearing branches for the
positioning ropes)—voila: -82 dB received signal with good,
fast timing and few lost packets. It's 330 feet of shielded
cable into the K7MM hamshack. When I transmit on 80 meters it
reboots the modem--the cable is parallel with my
off-center-fed dipole.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_111853">I ordered
the QRT-5 integrated panel and MIMO radio, so we will see how
much better is the signal on this new hardware.</div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_112018">73 from
Dan at K7MM</div>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Sunday, January 17, 2016 6:50 PM<br clear="none">
<b id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_111396"><span id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_111395" style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[HamWAN PSDR] Kitsap County Gold Mountain HamWAN
Attempts, Dish and Sector Antennas K7MM<br clear="none">
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<div id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_111506">Nigel,</div>
<div id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_26910">Of
course, now that you explain it, it makes
sense. Thank you. More to report tomorrow!</div>
<div id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_26909">73
from Dan at K7MM</div>
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Sunday, January 17, 2016 6:30 PM<br clear="none">
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Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Kitsap County Gold
Mountain HamWAN Attempts, Dish and
Sector Antennas K7MM<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv8956477750" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_26915">I
think there’s a bit of confusion
here. From what you’re describing
about pinging google, and the
screenshot you provided, the modem
is getting an IP from the network
properly, and has full
communications.</div>
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think what you’re seeing is that
your laptop/computer connected to
the modem may not be getting an IP
address, which wouldn’t come from
the network, but instead from the
modem itself.</div>
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<div class="yiv8956477750" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_26919">In
step 12 of the client
configuration instructions we have
you disable the modem from
providing DHCP to devices to make
sure the modem doesn’t interfere
with your home network if you plug
it in there. If you plug the modem
into your home network, you can
give it an IP on your network on
the modem’s ethernet interface, or
if you plan on it being a separate
network where DHCP wouldn’t
interfere, you can add that back
to the ethernet interface as well.</div>
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<div class="yiv8956477750" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_26921">This
latter scenario is described in
the “Next Steps” section of the
client configuration instructions
page, but we don’t make it the
default because everyone’s use
case will be different.</div>
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Jan 17, 2016, at 18:07,
Daniel Ransom <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8956477750" ymailto="mailto:danra995@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:danra995@yahoo.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8956477750moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:danra995@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:danra995@yahoo.com">danra995@yahoo.com</a>>
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<div class="yiv8956477750" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_19046">Bart,</div>
<div class="yiv8956477750" dir="ltr" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_19047">Thanks
for the advice on the
QRT-5. It looks very
nice; I might upgrade
to that. With my
vertically polarized
sector antenna I found
-77 dBm this
afternoon, and when I
rotated the antenna 90
degrees (now
horizontal) my best
was -88 dBm. Again,
this is a
line-of-sight path at
5 feet above the
ground (possible
Fresnel-zone
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<div class="yiv8956477750" dir="ltr" id="yiv8956477750yui_3_16_0_1_1453072791088_19401">Today
I had good results
with my MikroTik
Metal 5SHPn
transceiver modem
(reprogrammed with
v6.32.3) and the
sector antenna. This
time my connection
attempt was mostly
okay! I could see
network activity on
tool > traceroute
8.8.8.8 (see
attached), and I could
ping <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8956477750" target="_blank" href="http://google.com/">google.com</a>,
averaging around 80 ms
(median about 40 ms).
However, I could not
get an IP address from
the network. Any ideas
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the trees behind my
house (tomorrow).
Already I have a
dacron rope
there--placed with
my trusty KR4LO Air
Boss pneumatic line
launcher. Down the
tree and into the
hamshack it's 330
feet, so I'm right
at the edge of the
maximum cable run.
Definitely, I will
be injecting 24 Vdc!</span></div>
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