<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Eddie,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ed is correct, the 921 is an AC modem and isn’t supported for client connections unfortunately. I don’t know where you purchased it from, but I have to imagine that you could return or exchange it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Nigel</div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 28, 2016, at 10:07, Ed Morin <<a href="mailto:edmorin.jr@gmail.com" class="">edmorin.jr@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class="">The HamWAN folks have occasionally purchased the model you have from folks as they sometimes use them for point-to-point links on their backbone.<br class=""><br class="">FWIW, I made the exact same error. It was very frustrating. I wish the 20/40 units would also be able to do 5/10.</div></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><hr class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;" class="">From: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=""><a href="mailto:ecukierman@gmail.com" class="">Edward Cukiernan</a></span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;" class="">Sent: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class="">10/28/2016 9:57 AM</span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;" class="">To: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=""><a href="mailto:psdr@hamwan.org" class="">Puget Sound Data Ring</a></span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;" class="">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class="">Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Updated Client Hardware Recommendations?</span><br class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">It looks like the relevant line I missed was "this requires a Mikrotik 802.11a/n modem (their 802.11ac modems cannot do 5 or 10 MHz channels)"<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I hope others learn from my lesson and don't assume that just because the modem was used elsewhere in hamwan it would be suitable for a client node.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks for the quick reply,</div><div class="">--Eddie</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Ed Morin <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:edmorin.jr@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">edmorin.jr@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div dir="ltr" class="">You can't use that model for standard HamWAN node access because it only does 20 and 40 MHz channels. You need the <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-BaseBox-RB912UAG-5HPnD-OUT-Outdoor-Wireless/dp/B00GA0DMDQ/" target="_blank" class="">RB912UAG-5HPnD-OUT </a>model that supports 5 and 10 MHz channels. The 921 is an awesome modem often used for backhaul links, but unfortunately incompatible with the standard HamWAN client access model. Since I'm somewhat of a "noob" myself at this, I'm sure one of the seasoned guru's will jump in to correct any misinformation I may have blathered. ;-)<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is a page worth studying a bit on client access gear.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="http://hamwan.org/Standards/Component%20Engineering/Client%20Hardware.html" target="_blank" class="">http://hamwan.org/Standards/<wbr class="">Component%20Engineering/<wbr class="">Client%20Hardware.html</a> <br class=""></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Edward Cukiernan <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:ecukierman@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">ecukierman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div dir="ltr" class=""><span style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">Does anyone have experience with the <a href="https://www.amazon.com/MikroTik-RB921UAGS-5SHPacD-NM-NetMetal-integrated-802-11ac/dp/B00N9ZIA5A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1477628043&sr=8-1&keywords=RB921UAGS-5SHPacD-NM" target="_blank" class="">RB921UAGS-5SHPacD-NM</a> modem? I was hoping to ask for configuration advice as I tried to set up a new client node.</span><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">In particular I am getting an "unsupported channel" error when I tried to enter the 6 hamwan channels. From poking around in the UI it looks like the part it is complaining about is using a 5 or 10 mhz width. (I'm inferring this because the UI is happy enough for me to set a 20mhz width.) </span><br class=""><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">If you are curious how I chose that one it is because I saw it mentioned in a previous thread as being proposed to add to Baldi.</span><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">Thanks,</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">--Eddie</span></div><div class=""><div class="m_8359426626023625761h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Nigel Vander Houwen <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:nigel@nigelvh.com" target="_blank" class="">nigel@nigelvh.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div style="-ms-word-wrap: break-word;" class=""><div class="">Hello Don,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m not sure what specific other hardware you were having a hard time finding. I haven’t seen anything about the 5SHPn being discontinued, and it is available on Amazon. <a href="https://www.amazon.com/MikroTik-RBMetal-5SHPn-Routerboard-OUTDOOR-WIRELESS/dp/B00ADRZGOK" target="_blank" class="">https://www.amazon.com<wbr class="">/MikroTik-RBMetal-5SHPn-Router<wbr class="">board-OUTDOOR-WIRELESS/dp/B00A<wbr class="">DRZGOK</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The normal grid dish we recommend has been getting harder to find, but the ARC dishes should be available via other distributors, like Streakwave. <a href="https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=ARC-DA5830SD1" target="_blank" class="">https://www.streak<wbr class="">wave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=ARC-D<wbr class="">A5830SD1</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you do go the ARC dish route, since it’s a dual polarity dish, and our newer sites are dual polarity, you may want to consider the RB912 modem instead of the 5SHPn <a href="https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=RB912UAG5HPnDOT" target="_blank" class="">https://www.streakwave.c<wbr class="">om/itemdesc.asp?ic=RB912UAG5HP<wbr class="">nDOT</a> which will support dual polarity.</div><span class="m_8359426626023625761m_7007638010382298086HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Nigel</div><br class=""></font></span><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="m_8359426626023625761m_7007638010382298086h5"><div class="">On Oct 4, 2016, at 11:00, VA7 KOC <<a href="mailto:va7koc@shaw.ca" target="_blank" class="">va7koc@shaw.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_8359426626023625761m_7007638010382298086m_6828017982768936848Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="m_8359426626023625761m_7007638010382298086h5"><div class=""><div style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><div class="">Hi there,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For the last couple of days, I've been trying to chase down some client radio hardware as recommended by our club here in Victoria, BC as well as the recommendation at <a href="http://hamwan.org/" target="_blank" class="">HamWAN.org</a>. It seems that all of the radio products have been discontinued and are therefore out of stock at multiple distributors. Originally I was looking at th<span style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class="">e <span style="text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Mikrotik Metal 5SHPn but failing that, I started working through the rest of the list with no joy.</span></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><span style="text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></span></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><span style="text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Is there an updated list or alternative products that people have been using? I'd rather purchase based on experience vs. a spec sheet, so any advice is appreciated.</span></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><span style="text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></span></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><span style="text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Thank you,</span></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><span style="text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></span></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><span style="text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Don MacLeod</span></span></div></div></div></div></div><span class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">PSDR mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org" target="_blank" class="">PSDR@hamwan.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr" target="_blank" class="">http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman<wbr class="">/listinfo/psdr</a><br class=""></span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div><br class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">
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