<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">John,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think any option you listed is susceptible. HamWAN is designed to be as robust as possible with multiple paths to most everything. But it can conceivably fail for parts or all of the network. It’s another option. There’s a finite chance that service X will fail in the earthquake, the more services you have available to you, the more chances one will still work.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Your ground based Hughes dish is just as vulnerable to earthquake shaking as your HamWAN client dish would be, and I have to believe given the history in earthquakes, that the cell networks will be entirely overloaded and useless, assuming you get a signal at all.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also note that HamWAN isn’t supposed to be an “internet replacement”, it does have connectivity to the internet, and if that still works in the case of the big one, great! Consider HamWAN closer to an island, like yourself. There’s all sorts of connectivity within the island. (EOC/DEM, Hospitals, etc.), and it has links to the internet for greater access.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Nigel</div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 22, 2016, at 19:49, John V. Cornelison <<a href="mailto:john@VashonSoftware.com" class="">john@VashonSoftware.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">A couple of tech savvy folks on Vashon are recommending against HamWan for emergency Internet access if Vashon’s sole fiber optic connection to the mainland gets severed. Apparently the problem is that the nodes wouldn’t survive an earthquake ‘reorienting’ the antennas. Can anyone confirm the validity of this?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Given that HamWan seems to have been created about 2005-2007, are there any more modern alternatives for robust internet to Vashon Island?<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">We’re currently leaning toward (the much pricier) Hughes or other satellite dish connection.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I know of the incoming/potential<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.onenet.wa.gov/" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">www.onenet.wa.gov</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>for public service agencies – which should be available to us. We had considered a microwave hookup to the South King County data center near Tukwila or to a commercial provider such as<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="" class=""><a href="http://www.accelnet.net/www.cortland.com" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">www.accelnet.net/www.cortland.com</a></span>. Some cell towers from the mainland reach parts of Vashon too, enabling a hot spot approach.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Any other ideas?<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks & happy holidays,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">John Cornelison<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">KE7KDQ<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://www.vashonbeprepared.org/" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">VashonBePrepared.org</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://www.vashoneoc.org/" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">VashonEOC.org</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">PSDR mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">PSDR@hamwan.org</a><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>