<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" style="font-size: 14px;" class="">Hi Tom,</font><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" style="font-size: 14px;" class="">Great web page.</font></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">I wrote this article on the topic:</div><div class=""><a href="https://hamwan.org/Administrative/Internet and Part 97.html" class="">https://hamwan.org/Administrative/Internet%20and%20Part%2097.html</a></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" style="font-size: 14px;" class="">How do I determine if a program like iOS Face Time uses <span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">cryptography to </span><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); white-space: pre-wrap;" class="">obscure the video or audio.</span></font></div><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); white-space: pre-wrap; font-size: 14px;" class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class=""><br class=""></font></span></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); white-space: pre-wrap;" class="">In other words is it </span><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); white-space: pre-wrap;" class="">allowed</span><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> or not allowed to use Face Time to talk to another amateur radio</span> operator over HanWAN?</font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" style="font-size: 14px;" class="">I assume it is not permitted to use <span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); white-space: pre-wrap;" class="">Face Time to talk to a non ham even if I </span><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); white-space: pre-wrap;" class="">initiate the Face Time contact.</span></font></div><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); white-space: pre-wrap; font-size: 14px;" class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class=""><br class=""></font></span></div><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); white-space: pre-wrap; font-size: 14px;" class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class=""><br class=""></font></span></div><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); white-space: pre-wrap; font-size: 14px;" class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class="">Note in WinLink it is ok to send and receive email a non ham because the radio session is controlled by the ham and not by the sender or software.</font></span></div><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); white-space: pre-wrap; font-size: 14px;" class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class=""><br class=""></font></span></div><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); white-space: pre-wrap; font-size: 14px;" class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class="">This would indicate most email and text messing is not allowed because the software is in control of sending you messages and you are not controlling the reception of email or text messages.</font></span></div><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); white-space: pre-wrap; font-size: 14px;" class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class=""><br class=""></font></span></div><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); white-space: pre-wrap; font-size: 14px;" class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class="">Climbing up the HamWAN learning curve.</font></span></div><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); white-space: pre-wrap; font-size: 14px;" class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class=""><br class=""></font></span></div><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); white-space: pre-wrap; font-size: 14px;" class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class="">73 David Haworth</font></span></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo, Monaco, Consolas, Courier New, monospace" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""><a href="http://www.stargazing.net/david/sdr/HamWAN.html#P4b" class="">http://www.stargazing.net/david/sdr/HamWAN.html#P4b</a></span></font></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo, Monaco, Consolas, Courier New, monospace" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); white-space: pre-wrap;" class="">PS: WinLink has worked great on my portable QRT 5 rig.<br class=""></span></font><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 5, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Tom Hayward <<a href="mailto:tom@tomh.us" class="">tom@tomh.us</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:48 AM Carl <<a href="mailto:carl@n7kuw.com" class="">carl@n7kuw.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" class=""><div class="gmail-m_-4246566071743500818WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="">Hello Kent,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="">Please keep in mind, it is strictly prohibited (by Federal regulation) to do any kind of business/commerce over amateur radio (which includes HamWAN), and further, no encryption of any kind is permitted over amateur radio. For these reasons, you cannot utilize HamWAN for commercial purposes, even in a disaster/emergency scenario.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div class=""> </div><div class="">Specifically, what the regulation prohibits is any kind of pecuniary interest. This means that if you collect a salary, equity, or any other type of compensation from Bitnation, you would not be allowed to test it over ham radio. The rest of us would be free to run the software on HamWAN, provided no other regulations such as obscuring the content of messages are violated.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I wrote this article on the topic:</div><div class=""><a href="https://hamwan.org/Administrative/Internet and Part 97.html" class="">https://hamwan.org/Administrative/Internet%20and%20Part%2097.html</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Tom KD7LXL</div></div></div>
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