<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">John,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Correct, but HamWAN is still a amateur network, built by hams, for hams, so it’s still an amateur radio network whether or not it’s part 97 spectrum.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Nigel<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 5, 2018, at 15:49, John D. Hays <<a href="mailto:john@hays.org" class="">john@hays.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Nigel,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The license for the address space says that it must be used within Amateur Radio -- not necessarily on the air, but within the context of Amateur Radio, which I take to include infrastructure. I simply reference <a href="https://www.ampr.org/terms-of-service/" class="">https://www.ampr.org/terms-of-service/</a></div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:21 PM Nigel Vander Houwen <<a href="mailto:nigel@nigelvh.com" class="">nigel@nigelvh.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class="">John,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">With regards to the address space, it’s still an amateur network, so we wouldn’t need new space, there’s no requirement to only use it on part 97 frequencies. It’s just reserved for ham use.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You are correct that we gain some spectrum and some transmitter power flexibility.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Nigel<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 5, 2018, at 14:56, John D. Hays <<a href="mailto:john@hays.org" target="_blank" class="">john@hays.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-8892806671523171285Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="m_-8892806671523171285gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">When Bart first proposed the HamWAN concept to various amateur radio forums, he observed that radio repeater sites would be beneficial to building the network. It was pointed out that many of those sites provide space on a discounted or gratis basis for amateur radio purposes only (often in support of public service/emergency communications), and the repeater operators would likely loose their sites or start having to pay commercial rates. Also, using 44.x.x.x routable addresses come with an amateur radio requirement. In addition, running part 97 has greater transmitter power flexibility.<br class=""><br class="">So, the network could be rebuilt using non Part 97 compliance, but new address space would be required (or a giant NAT infrastructure for IPv4) as well as re-negotiating site rentals.<br class=""><br class="">So, unless those steps are undertaken, the network is under Part 97 rules for segments running in the US and its territories.<br class=""><br class="">However, if Kent wanted to use the published HamWAN engineering work to build a similar WISP system, with associated costs, that is a possibility.</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><hr class=""><div style="float:left;padding-left:1em" class=""><font class=""><font class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">John D. 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