<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
span.EmailStyle17
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";}
@page WordSection1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I just happened to send the following to Andrew about the same time he inquired about this dish. This is the dish and radio on Amazon. I’m sure it is available elsewhere also. I am using the dish without the shield kit (“barrel” and front cover), but those are essential if you are on a site with any other 5GHz equipment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This is the dish I am using at my house, and what I would strongly recommend for a shot to Gold Mtn (due to significantly longer range). This is a 30dbi dish.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MG4UDAA/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MG4UDAA/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And this is the radio/modem/router to go with the dish. Again, can’t emphasize too much to make sure you specify the international version if/when ordering.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GA0DMDQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GA0DMDQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Carl<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Musselman<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 6, 2019 3:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> Puget Sound Data Ring<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Potential cell site<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Doug, do you have the model number handy for the larger two-foot dish and shield?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 1:25 PM Andrew Musselman <<a href="mailto:ki7kqa@gmail.com" target="_blank">ki7kqa@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks to Carl for the visit; we established I will have a decent connection to Capitol Park.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>73, have a good week all!<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 6:38 PM Doug Kingston <<a href="mailto:dpk@randomnotes.org" target="_blank">dpk@randomnotes.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Speaking for PSRG and Seattle ACS tech teams, we have had very good luck with the Microtik Dynadish.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=DynaDishG-5HacD&eq=&Tp=&o1=0" target="_blank">https://streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=DynaDishG-5HacD&eq=&Tp=&o1=0</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>(be sure its the ROW (non-US) version; you will need to send proof of license and sign a waiver)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The next step up from this is the full 2ft dish with shield kit (about twice the price.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We have used these for repeater sites and any place with a clear shot at one of the cells.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Very compromised locations may need the larger dish and shield kit.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-Doug-<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 6:04 PM Jonathan Scherch, KK7PW <<a href="mailto:scherch.kk7pw@gmail.com" target="_blank">scherch.kk7pw@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Andrew and Carl,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I too am interested in joining HamWan and have a clear shot to Gold. If/when you meet with Andrew to test his sight, perhaps come by my QTH and test as well? I’d be pleased to hear any recommendations on gear and placement. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks much. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jonathan, KK7PW<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jan 3, 2019, at 10:15, Carl <<a href="mailto:carl@n7kuw.com" target="_blank">carl@n7kuw.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Andrew,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There are a number of folks in Seattle that have portable HamWAN gear and I’m sure someone would be glad to help you determine if you have a shot. I’m in the north end of Seattle and can loan you enough to test Gold, but it wouldn’t be good for a permanent setup (not enough gain).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The real key, absolutely essential, is VISIBLE LINE OF SIGHT to one of the sector panels. If you can look through binoculars and see the site, you can hit it. If not, it is very unlikely you could get a usable shot (unless you were very close). Your best shot, if you have it, would be Beacon. Second choice Capitol Park. Gold is a long distance, and there is another tower partially blocking the HamWAN sector aiming at Seattle, but several people in West Seattle have a good shot at Gold. I’m shooting at Gold, and get a very poor signal (using a 2 foot dish at my end). Part of the problem is I’m right on the edge of sector 1 and sector 2 (the sectors are 120 degrees wide, and signal at the edges is poorer than closer to the center). Part of the problem is Gold sectors have down-tilt, they are aimed down toward the area surrounding Gold on the peninsula, so Seattle is above the peak of the signal. And the last part of the problem is the blocking tower I mentioned. A person on Queen Anne has a beautiful view of Gold, but a relatively poor signal (usable but not fantastic). For all of these reasons, Gold is a last choice from Seattle if you have any view of Beacon or Capitol Park.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You are welcome to contact me directly if you want to arrange use of a flat panel HamWAN “dish” that can see Gold if there is line of sight. I know another person who lives south and I’m sure has some portable gear who could also help.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>Carl, N7KUW (<a href="mailto:carl@n7kuw.com" target="_blank">carl@n7kuw.com</a>)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> PSDR [<a href="mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org" target="_blank">mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Musselman<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 2, 2019 11:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> Puget Sound Data Ring<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Potential cell site</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks a lot Rob; I'll send my address off-list, will appreciate any help.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>If anyone closer has gear to lend I'll be happy to use it; otherwise I will hit you up some time for yours.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Best<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Andrew<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 22:54 Rob Salsgiver <<a href="mailto:rob@nr3o.com" target="_blank">rob@nr3o.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204)'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Andrew,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I did a quick look with CalTopo and it looks like Beacon Hill doesn’t quite work for the coordinates you gave. Gold you are right on the edge on. It appears as though you might be right on or over a ridge. With a bit more accurate positioning I can get a better idea for sure on Gold.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>On the plus side, you appear to be right in a patch that gets lit up by Capitol Park. If someone closer to you doesn’t have some gear that you can test with, let me know. I have a grid combo I can loan you for testing, but I’m clear up in Granite Falls.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If you can shoot me an address, tighter GPS, and/or a height at your location I can get a better picture for you and send you a couple of pics.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Rob Salsgiver – NR3O</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> PSDR [mailto:<a href="mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org" target="_blank">psdr-bounces@hamwan.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Musselman<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 2, 2019 9:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:psdr@hamwan.org" target="_blank">psdr@hamwan.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [HamWAN PSDR] Potential cell site</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi, I'm just reading up on HamWAN and considering getting connected. I see I'm in a reddish zone surrounded by white on the coverage map now and am wondering if my property would be a good place for a new cell/link site.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I'll have to do some tests to see, but I might have line of sight to Gold Mountain, and might be able to see Beacon Hill from a roof. I'm at approximately 47.569,-122.399.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Let me know if you have any recommendations on how to proceed; I don't want to invest in gear unless I know I'll be able to make it work.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Best<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Andrew<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Andrew Musselman<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>KI7KQA<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>_______________________________________________<br>PSDR mailing list<br><a href="mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org" target="_blank">PSDR@hamwan.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr" target="_blank">http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Andrew Musselman<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>KI7KQA<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>PSDR mailing list<br><a href="mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org" target="_blank">PSDR@hamwan.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr" target="_blank">http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>PSDR mailing list<br><a href="mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org" target="_blank">PSDR@hamwan.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr" target="_blank">http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>PSDR mailing list<br><a href="mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org" target="_blank">PSDR@hamwan.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr" target="_blank">http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><br>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Andrew Musselman<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>KI7KQA<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><br>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Andrew Musselman<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>KI7KQA<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>