<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div><div style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 10.0pt;"><div>Tad,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Not so many years in the past, HTTPS/encryption was mainly used for banking, financial, and other "sensitive" web sites. Most of the web was un-encrypted (HTTP).<br></div><div><br></div><div>But now fast forward to 2019: The vast majority of web sites on the internet are now encrypted (HTTPS), whether they are hosting sensitive content or not. More web sites are being encrypted daily. So if one does just about *any* web browsing (even at a basic level) on the Internet today, there's a good chance that some or all of the content encountered would be encrypted, and accessing it using HamWAN would violate Part 97 rules.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Here's a fun fact: Even the web site: <a target="_blank" href="http://neverssl.com">http://neverssl.com</a>, which boasts itself as not using https encryption, and promises to never use https encryption: Has some encrypted https link on their web page! <br></div><div><br></div><div>John (kx7jm)<br></div><div><br></div><div class="x_1827996497zmail_extra"><div><br></div><div id="x_18279964971">---- On Sun, 08 Sep 2019 14:11:25 -0700 <b>Tad Hope <tad.w.hope@gmail.com></b> wrote ----<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote style="border-left: 1.0px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left: 6.0px;margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 5.0px;"><div><br><br>Looks like I need to dive into part 97 to figure out what I can and can’t do. So basically if it’s a https site you cannot use it because of the encryption, that makes sense but for basic browsing will that violate the rules?<br><br>> On Sep 8, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Nigel Vander Houwen <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:nigel@nigelvh.com">nigel@nigelvh.com</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> Tad,<br>> <br>> HamWAN does have internet connectivity, but please be careful not to consider it a replacement for your commercial internet provider. Part 97 rules restrict usage of amateur radio frequencies, including for commercial usage or with encryption (HTTPS). Winlink would be a good use, there are a number of repeaters that have linking via HamWAN, there are several of our sites where we’ve installed streaming cameras for folks to watch. We very much intend HamWAN as a neutral network where you can run most any application you want as long as it stays clear of Part 97 rules and isn’t abusive.<br>> <br>> Nigel<br>> <br>>> On Sep 8, 2019, at 12:44, Tad Hope <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:tad.w.hope@gmail.com">tad.w.hope@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> <br>>> <br>>> I got all my equipment, I was going to use this for my winlink packet system for the IP, what else can I use HamWAN for? Can I use it to browse google? I don’t know what it’s limitations are, video streaming is that out of the question? I know these might seem like stupid questions but I’m just curious what all I will be able to do after I get up and going?<br>>> Thanks<br>>> Everett <br>>> W7EWH <br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> PSDR mailing list<br>>> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org">PSDR@hamwan.org</a><br>>> <a target="_blank" href="http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr">http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr</a><br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> PSDR mailing list<br>> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org">PSDR@hamwan.org</a><br>> <a target="_blank" href="http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr">http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>PSDR mailing list<br><a target="_blank" href="mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org">PSDR@hamwan.org</a><br><a target="_blank" href="http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr">http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr</a><br></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div></div></div><div><br></div></div><br></body></html>