<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks, Tom. I was not aware of the print oid command, but this looks very promising. We certainly will practice this.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Herb<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 1, 2020, at 10:02 AM, Tom Hayward <<a href="mailto:tom@tomh.us" class="">tom@tomh.us</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">I have never heard of Aim Master.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The Mikrotik command to learn OIDs is "print oid". Example:</div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(46, 174, 187);" class=""><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">[</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">tom</span><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">@</span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">Baldi.Crystal</span><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">] </span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">/interface wireless</span><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">> </span><span class="gmail-s4" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(200,20,201)">print</span><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"> </span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">oid</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>0 </span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">tx-rate=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.1.1.2.2 </span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">rx-rate=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.1.1.3.2 </span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">strength=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.1.1.4.2 </span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">ssid=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.1.1.5.2<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">bssid=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.1.1.6.2 </span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">frequency=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.1.1.7.2 </span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">band=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.1.1.8.2<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(46, 174, 187);" class=""><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">[</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">tom</span><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">@</span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">Baldi.Crystal</span><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">] </span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">/interface wireless</span><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">> </span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">registration-table</span><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"> </span><span class="gmail-s4" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(200,20,201)">print</span><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"> </span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">oid</span><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>0 </span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">signal-strength=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.3.212.202.109.98.213.93.2 </span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">tx-signal-strength=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.19.212.202.109.98.213.93.2<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">tx-bytes=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.4.212.202.109.98.213.93.2 </span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">rx-bytes=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.5.212.202.109.98.213.93.2 </span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">tx-packets=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.6.212.202.109.98.213.93.2<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">rx-packets=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.7.212.202.109.98.213.93.2 </span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">tx-rate=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.8.212.202.109.98.213.93.2 </span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">rx-rate=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.9.212.202.109.98.213.93.2<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">routeros-version=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.10.212.202.109.98.213.93.2 </span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">uptime=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.11.212.202.109.98.213.93.2<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">signal-to-noise=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.12.212.202.109.98.213.93.2 </span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">tx-signal-strength-ch0=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.13.212.202.109.98.213.93.2<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">signal-strength-ch0=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.14.212.202.109.98.213.93.2 </span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">tx-signal-strength-ch1=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.15.212.202.109.98.213.93.2<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">signal-strength-ch1=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.16.212.202.109.98.213.93.2 </span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">tx-signal-strength-ch2=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.17.212.202.109.98.213.93.2<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(47,180,29)">signal-strength-ch2=</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.18.212.202.109.98.213.93.2<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Once you have found enough signal to maintain a connection, exit out of scan and use <span class="gmail-s4" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(200,20,201)">mon</span> for much better data. It will show you both chains.</div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(47, 180, 29);" class=""><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">[</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(46,174,187)">tom</span><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">@</span><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">haystack.evergreenmonroe</span><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">] > </span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(46,174,187)">/in</span><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"> </span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(46,174,187)">wi</span><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"> </span><span class="gmail-s4" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(200,20,201)">mon</span><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"> 0</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>status: connected-to-ess</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>channel: 5880/10/an</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>wireless-protocol: nv2</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>tx-rate: 43.3Mbps-10MHz/2S/SGI</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>rx-rate: 52Mbps-10MHz/2S</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>ssid: HamWAN</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>bssid: 6C:3B:6B:5D:5E:17</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>radio-name: Haystack-S3/K7WAN</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>signal-strength: -67dBm</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>signal-strength-ch0: -69dBm</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>signal-strength-ch1: -71dBm</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>tx-signal-strength: -68dBm</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>tx-signal-strength-ch0: -71dBm</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>tx-signal-strength-ch1: -71dBm</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>noise-floor: -118dBm</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>signal-to-noise: 51dB</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>tx-ccq: 80%</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>rx-ccq: 79%</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>authenticated-clients: 1</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>current-distance: 22</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>wds-link: no</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>bridge: no</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>routeros-version: 6.46</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>last-ip: 192.241.235.209</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>current-tx-powers: 6Mbps:27(27/30),9Mbps:27(27/30),12Mbps:27(27/30),18Mbps:27(27/30),24Mbps:27(27/30),36Mbps:27(27/30),48Mbps:25(25/28),54Mbps:24(24/27),HT20-0:27(27/30),HT20-1:27(27/30),</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>HT20-2:27(27/30),HT20-3:27(27/30),HT20-4:27(27/30),HT20-5:27(27/30),HT20-6:25(25/28),HT20-7:23(23/26)</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>notify-external-fdb: no</span></div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(47,180,29)">
</p><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span class="gmail-s3" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"></span><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Practice on the ground if you've never done it before.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Tom KD7LXL</div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 5:52 PM Kenny Richards <<a href="mailto:richark@gmail.com" class="">richark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="">I have not used the Aim Master, but I would be surprised if it isn't operating off the same data being provided by the scan. As someone who has done a fair amount of the tower work, you really don't want to have them trying to manage anything additionally like watching a display.(regardless of what display) That is why having the pre-defined interactions between the ground person (who can completely focus on the data) and the tower person is the best solution. </div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=""> </div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 4:53 PM Herb Weiner <<a href="mailto:herbw@wiskit.com" target="_blank" class="">herbw@wiskit.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="">Thanks, Kenny. This is the same technique we have used (except without the HTs) when we are setting up a dish on a tripod, but I was really hoping that there was a better way. And it is quite possible that the tower climber will have experience with this. At this point, we don't know who the tower climber will be, since KOIN requires that we use climbers approved by them.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I agree that scan sucks. Also, for aiming, an analog display really would work better than a digital display. That is why I was hoping that I could get Aim Master to work. (If anyone can tell me what some suitable SNMP OIDs for aiming an antenna, I will try to update Aim Master. Perhaps this would be a better solution.)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Herb<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 29, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Kenny Richards <<a href="mailto:richark@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">richark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="">Herb,</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="">The approach which has always been used when I have been involved uses the output of /interface wireless scan 0, but it really requires two people. </div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="">1) person on tower preps the dish and does their best to aim it in the right direction. They report to ground (usually via a HT) that they are ready.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="">2) person on ground that is logged into radio, issues the scan command. </div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="">3) The ground person at this point is in control and should be doing almost all the talking. (which is good, because the person the tower needs both hands aiming the dish)</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="">4) ground person reads the signal level, whether they see a connection or not, etc. They need todo this continually, because the person on the tower is completely operating on what they are being told. This means you keep swing in one direction until the ground person tells you to stop and go back the other direction. </div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="">5) remember that you will need to adjust horizontal and vertical multiple times to fine tune the signal. </div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="">6) also remember the scan sucks and will 'stop' updating when it looses the signal. </div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="">7) the tower person has to try and go as slow and steady as possible when adjusting. </div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="">If you are using a professional tower climber, get a set of FRS radios or something to send up with them. I'd be surprised if the pro's haven't done this general alignment before, but that is just a guess.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="">Kenny</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 1:53 PM Herb Weiner <<a href="mailto:herbw@wiskit.com" target="_blank" class="">herbw@wiskit.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="">In the near future, Oregon HamWAN (<a href="http://www.oregonhamwan.org/" target="_blank" class="">http://www.oregonhamwan.org</a>) will be deploying three sectors and an uplink (aimed at Larch Mountain) on the KOIN Tower in Southwest Portland.<br class=""><br class="">What is the best way to optimize the aiming of our uplink? I am familiar with the use of /interface wireless scan 0, but it is difficult to optimize the signal strength using the output of this command.<br class=""><br class="">Aim Master (<a href="https://github.com/HamWAN/aim" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/HamWAN/aim</a>) looked like a promising approach, but it appears as if this has not been updated since 2016, and it appears to use SNMP MIBs that are no longer supported by the current firmware.<br class=""><br class="">We need to provide instructions for a professional tower climber that will probably have limited, if any, experience with HamWAN.<br class=""><br class="">Thanks for your suggestions.<br class=""><br class="">Herb, AA7HW<br class=""><br class=""> </div>_______________________________________________<br class="">
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