<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">FYI - I'll be submitting a request for the PtP dish/radio to go on Gold, to provided the second link to Buck.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 8:12 AM Doug Kingston <<a href="mailto:dpk@randomnotes.org">dpk@randomnotes.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I see 2 positive votes in this thread (Doug, Nigel) and will assume this is approved. I need to start the backfill ordering ASAP as we are getting into the active work season. There are a couple of inventory deficiencies I need to fill as well. Bart has another request that I expect to see in the next few days and that will be further depleting inventory. I will send a separate note with an indication of planned purchases for quick review.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">-Doug-</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 1:14 PM Dale Skyllingstad <<a href="mailto:dskyllingstad@harbornet.com" target="_blank">dskyllingstad@harbornet.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Bart,<br>
<br>
I fully support this project along with Jason. He and I (along
with one other) manage our installation in the Wiztronics
facility.<br>
<br>
Since I'm furloughed for the foreseeable future, I'm available to
work on the install crew if/when this moves forward. We have a
floorstanding rack in the west building of the north compound that
has plenty of room for a switch in that building.<br>
<br>
Dale<br>
AH6ET<br>
<br>
On 5/31/2020 11:35 PM, Bart Kus wrote:<br>
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Jason, glad you like this idea, as you're one one of the tenants
who would benefit from the in-building switch access. :) We've
partnered with another tenant who is sponsoring this build-out
under his lease, so we don't need any further approvals. But
thanks for offering to help!<br>
<br>
Kenny, a great question that I forgot to make clear. There is
already conduit between all the buildings. I confirmed tonight
that it's got sufficient capacity to run an extra CAT5. I think
we only have to fish a ~150ft run between the middle building and
the bunker, as there are spare CAT5s in the conduit between the
middle building and north building, so that should just be
plug-n-play. The trenching to the bunker was done earlier this
year as a response to the awful power outages we suffered this
winter. The north building is now tied into generator control
(and possibly power?) of the bunker.<br>
<br>
--Bart<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 5/31/2020 11:22 PM, Kenny Richards
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Bart,</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I've
seen several of these e-mails about the project, but don't
remember seeing an explanation of a key aspect.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">What
is the plan to connect the buildings with gigabit Ethernet?
Are you planning on digging a trench, stringing the CAT5
along the tree's or something else? Sorry, I am not
familiar with the layout or location of these different
buildings. so maybe that is a good place to start with your
plan? Have you received permission from the site owners
for this work?</div>
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Thanks</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Kenny</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, May 31, 2020 at
11:08 PM Jason J. Hill <<a href="mailto:Jason@pnwrr.com" target="_blank">Jason@pnwrr.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">I like this idea. It looks like the
wiztronics site would be the one you'd like to put the
link to rattlesnake on. Since we don't currently
occupy their main tower structure, we can check with
them to see if a dish could be covered under our
current lease at no additional cost if you'd like.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Jason</div>
<div dir="auto">kd7tqn</div>
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<div dir="auto">------ Original message------</div>
<div dir="auto"><b>From: </b>Bart Kus</div>
<div dir="auto"><b>Date: </b>Sun, May 31, 2020 10:48 PM</div>
<div dir="auto"><b>To: </b>Puget Sound Data Ring;</div>
<div dir="auto"><b>Cc: </b></div>
<div dir="auto"><b>Subject:</b>[HamWAN PSDR] VOTE: Baldi
LAN expansion and Rattlesnake link</div>
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<div>Hello,<br>
<br>
We have 4 clients connected to Baldi-S1 (a SISO sector)
that are kind of silly:<br>
<br>
<tt> # INTERFACE RADIO-NAME MAC-ADDRESS AP
SIGNAL... TX-RATE UPTIME</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt> 0 wlan1 AF7PR-Baldi
E4:8D:8C:C6:F5:45 no -60dBm 32.5... 2d8h51m46s</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt> 1 wlan1 KD7TQN-Baldi
D4:CA:6D:C2:ED:93 no -65dBm 32.5... 2d8h51m32s</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt> 2 wlan1 N7OEP/Baldi-B...
D4:CA:6D:0D:53:F9 no -60dBm 32.5... 2d8h51m27s</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt> 3 wlan1 Rattlesnake-B...
64:D1:54:AF:3F:CD no -79dBm 19.5... 1d9h35m21s</tt><tt><br>
</tt><br>
They're silly because the first 3 are at the same
mountain top, just a couple hundred feet away in
adjacent shacks. This is a waste of prime long-range
spectrum, being used to do local-links. I'd like to get
all the shacks @ Baldi tied together via gigabit
Ethernet, and install access switches at the 2 other
shacks so people there can plug into the LAN directly.
This high speed LAN between all shacks can then be used
to allow us to address the 4th silly client, which is
Rattlesnake Mountain. I'd like to install a dedicated
dish on the northernmost tower (fed by the new high
speed LAN) to act as a dedicated high speed link between
Baldi and Rattlesnake. The dish on the Rattlesnake side
will also need a modem upgrade to run at full speed, and
I'm including that in this proposal.<br>
<br>
Here is the rough budget for this spend request:<br>
<br>
<table width="100%" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" border="1">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td valign="top"><b>Item</b><b><br>
</b></td>
<td valign="top"><b>Quantity</b><b><br>
</b></td>
<td valign="top"><b>Cost</b><b><br>
</b></td>
<td valign="top"><b>Subtotal</b><b><br>
</b></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">500ft pull rope<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="center">1<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$12.97<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$12.97<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">425ft duct rod<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="center">1<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$111<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$111<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Taxes for above 2 items<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="center">1<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$11.53<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$11.53<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">CRS112-8P-4S-IN for northernmost
building, feeding Rattlesnake dish w/ PoE and
access ports for clients<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="center">1<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$170<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$170<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">CRS326-24G-2S+RM for middle
building, acting as mid-span switch and
providing ports to lots of devices there<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="center">1<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$185.24<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$185.24<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Taxes for above 2 items<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="center">1<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$33.04<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$33.04<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">1000ft Shielded CAT5 TC-PRO
ToughCable<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="center">1<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$137.68<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$137.68<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Taxes for above<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="center">1<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$12.80<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$12.80<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Existing Inventory Estimate:
RB921UAGS-5SHPacD-NM modem<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="center">2<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$150<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$300<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Existing Inventory Estimate:
mANT30 2ft microwave dish<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="center">1<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$120<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$120<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Existing Inventory Estimate:
Sleeve30 2ft microwave dish isolation kit<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="center">1<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$100<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$100<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">TOTAL COST ESTIMATE<br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="center"><br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right"><br>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right">$1,194.26<br>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
Current HamWAN balance is about $16k.<br>
<br>
Procedural reminder since we haven't had one of these
emails in way too long: HamWAN directors have 24 hours
to vote upon such spend decisions, and members have the
same time to weigh in with opinions to influence
director votes. Our procedures are documented here:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://hamwan.org/Administrative/Constitution.html" target="_blank">http://hamwan.org/Administrative/Constitution.html</a><br>
<br>
--Bart<br>
<br>
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