<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-size: 18px;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family: arial, sans-serif;">I did not say HamWan had such a list. The idea of "list" seems out of touch with the type of FCC regulatory language we have. I referred to Part 97, etc that is the overall basis for amateur radio to exist. "having fun" is not explicit in the mission and purpose. Perhaps kiddie TV cartoons and Laurel and Hardy re-runs should also be archived and regularly shown. That would be part of the "having fun" list of things, wouldn't it? I think we completely disagree and I'm not interested in debating this further.<br><br><blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 0px; border-left: #0000ff 2px solid; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial,sans-serif; color: black;">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Jamie Owens <jlowens76@gmail.com>
<br>Sent: Sep 27, 2020 2:35 AM
<br>To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org>
<br>Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] HamWAN Minecraft?
<br><br><div dir="ltr">Chuck, I don't recall reading a list of things you CANNOT use HamWAN for. Only that you cannot use encryption. If they set limits on the internet in the early days we would not be where we are now. Cannot restrict everything and expect any sort of good development to ever happen.<br><br>The limits re:encryption are as far as it should go, other than blatant abuse such as downloading massive amounts or doing other things that affect the performance of the network I do not see how there is any harm in trying to see the usefulness of the network while having a little fun.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 10:46 PM Chuck Cole <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net">cncole@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif">Gaming (ie, pure diversion) sounds contrary to letter and spirit of the FCC authorizations for amateur service.<div><br><div>I prefer that such things become specific prohibitions and maybe even punishable offenses since they can jeopardize our having any privileges. There is no political up side for diversionary gaming. If games were an explicit part of experimentation to improve bandwidth and reduce latency, AND data was both collected and reported in a useful manner, THEN games may be OK.<br><br>Chuck</div><div>K4TZO</div><div><br><blockquote style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:0px;border-left:2px solid rgb(0,0,255);font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:black">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Bart Kus <u></u>
<br>Sent: Sep 27, 2020 1:08 AM
<br>To: Puget Sound Data Ring <u></u>
<br>Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] HamWAN Minecraft?
<br><br>
Hello,<br>
<br>
I've come to realize that games seem compatible with Part 97. So
let's run a test of this on HamWAN. I've setup a Minecraft Bedrock
server on "<a target="_blank" href="http://minecraft.hamwan.net">minecraft.hamwan.net</a>" port 19133. The world has been
initiated from the seed "HamWAN". :) If you'd like to build some
ham radio related world, please join and have a go. I expect many
antennas!<br>
<br>
I've set the game rules to pvp=off (no hitting each other), and
showcoordinates=true (so people can find each other).<br>
<br>
I'd like to hear reports of how the gaming experience is over
HamWAN, so access to the server is limited to ARDC addresses only.
That is, you've gotta be connecting from <a target="_blank" href="http://44.0.0.0/9">44.0.0.0/9</a> or <a target="_blank" href="http://44.128.0.0/10">44.128.0.0/10</a>
address space.<br>
<br>
Have fun! And remember, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJQclHtsEE8">don't dig down</a>.<br>
<br>
--Bart<br>
<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Jamie Owens</div></div>
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