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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>We would welcome Thurston County EOC into the mix. Currently (that I am aware of), Snohomish County, City of Seattle, and Washington State EMD EOC’s are all on HamWAN.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>As to portable, I find the Dynadish is a comfortable sized package for most any shot you might end up with, and some of the 12” or 5” panels are usable at medium to short range, and are even more portable. And, with a little reprogramming, they can also be put into point-to-point service to relay a link.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Many options and opportunities (until you can build that 100 foot tower in your back yard).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Carl, N7KUW<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> PSDR <psdr-bounces@hamwan.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Phil Cornell via PSDR<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 15, 2021 1:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org>; Kenny Richards <richark@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Newbie<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Well, bad news. I have a wall of Douglas Fir at the end of the block between me and Capital Peak. I don't have a clear shot. I may set this station up at the Thurston County EOC for use in the radio room for Winlink traffic. My site is a no-go.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Phil Cornell </span></i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>W7PLC </span></i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>SHARES NCS590</span></i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Hybrid Gateway W7PLC</span></i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>TCARES VP</span></i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yahoo_quoted_6385129181"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Monday, March 15, 2021, 12:49:39 PM PDT, Kenny Richards <<a href="mailto:richark@gmail.com">richark@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=yiv7746710430><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Just want to add two things to what Carl said already.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>1) Line of sight means you can actually 'see' the HamWAN node, or at least you can with something like a pair of binoculars. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>2) Remember that HamWAN is not meant to be a replacement for your home internet. Be very conscious of what traffic you are putting over HamWAN. I don't recommend connecting it to your home network unless you are familiar enough with routing rules to limit what traffic goes out the HamWAN link.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Good luck,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Kenny, KU7M<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div id=yiv7746710430yqt28091><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 12:40 PM <<a href="mailto:carl@n7kuw.com" target="_blank">carl@n7kuw.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Hi Phil,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>You can do all of the configuration while on the ground, but obviously you won’t have any signal. You don’t indicate what specific equipment you have, but if you have the mAnt30 dish and separate router/modem, make sure you have the antenna connected before powering it up.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>As to trees, they are an absolute show stopper. You must have clear, visual, line of sight to the HamWAN site you are shooting to. Hopefully you will have that, or can achieve that, from where you plan to mount the dish. As to “just over them”, a microwave shot consists of the direct, pure line of sight, but also what is referred to as the Fresnel zone – a cigar shaped “balloon” around the pure line of sight. Items in the Fresnel zone (including trees) can reduce the amount of signal you have, so you may not get optimum performance, but some.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>In your initial post you commented about how to balance between your regular internet and HamWAN for a Winlink node. My suggestion would be to just leave it on one (whichever one) as the norm, and only switch to the other if the one goes down. You can also acquire routers that include failover capability to automatically make that switch. You can go more advanced with load sharing and such between multiple connections, but that requires much better understanding of internet routing, and for a winlink node basic failover will serve your purpose.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Good luck, let us know how things turn out.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Carl, N7KUW<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> PSDR <<a href="mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org" target="_blank">psdr-bounces@hamwan.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Phil Cornell via PSDR<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 15, 2021 12:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:psdr@hamwan.org" target="_blank">psdr@hamwan.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [HamWAN PSDR] Newbie<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>OK, I figured out my problem and I now have Winbox talking to the radio and reporting status. I's not linking to anything since the antenna is still on the ground. How much configuration can I do before mounting it on my roof. The only question in my sight path may be some trees but I think I can aim just over them and get a signal. My friend Bruce/WA7BAM will be helping with the antenna installation on Wed afternoon. Making progress...</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Phil Cornell </span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>W7PLC </span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>SHARES NCS590</span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Hybrid Gateway W7PLC</span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>TCARES VP</span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=yiv7746710430msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br>PSDR mailing list<br><a href="mailto:PSDR@hamwan.org" target="_blank">PSDR@hamwan.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr" target="_blank">http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>