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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I may have missed it, but I don’t recall seeing an answer to John Hays’ question about lobbying efforts to change the DNR policy regarding charging commercial rates to hams for DNR site use. I am disturbed
about losing these sites for HamWAN and other amateur uses that have a greater public value in support of public safety/disaster communications. It may be the 11<sup>th</sup> hour but perhaps it is not too late to start lobbying.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> PSDR <psdr-bounces@hamwan.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>
John D. Hays<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 19, 2021 8:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Cell Sites on DNR Towers<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">About 10 years ago, DNR was going to start charging amateur repeaters commercial rates to use DNR sites. I recall there was an active information campaign to the legislature and the legislature instructed
DNR to maintain the amateur radio rates. I recall ARRL was involved as well. What has been done with your legislators and the Governor's office to see what they are willing to do?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 11:05 PM Jamie Owens <<a href="mailto:jlowens76@gmail.com">jlowens76@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Maybe also throw in HamWAN Cam's helped catch a wildfire early on. <a href="http://www.arrl.org/news/ham-radio-wireless-network-camera-detects-washington-wildfire" target="_blank">http://www.arrl.org/news/ham-radio-wireless-network-camera-detects-washington-wildfire</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 10:19 PM Dale Skyllingstad <<a href="mailto:dskyllingstad@harbornet.com" target="_blank">dskyllingstad@harbornet.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">This is very unfortunate news. Perhaps we can draft a letter to our state legislators explaining our situation with the DNR, and detailing our network's contribution toward state emergency communications.
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<p class="MsoNormal">As has been previously discussed on the list, there has been a lot of happenings in the background over roughly the last year with regards to DNR sites. We’ve had several sites in limbo for some time as lease holders worked with DNR to
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<p class="MsoNormal">Unfortunately indications have greatly soured. As discussed in recent weeks, Rattlesnake and Larch Mountain were decommissioned recently, and we’ve now received official word that we’ll need to decommission Gold Mountain in the coming weeks.
As much as I’d like it to end there, we are not holding our breath for Capitol Peak or Blyn.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Unfortunately new rules DNR has placed on amateur leases effectively exclude use cases like HamWAN, if they were offering them at all due to DNR budget issues, and commercial rates are simply not feasible. I’m sure folks will think/suggest
about additional donations to cover it, but commercial rates would require many-fold our current donation levels EVERY YEAR to make work. It’s simply not something we can reasonably consider.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m very sorry to have to deliver this news to the many folks this will impact. This is obviously a major blow for the network. I’m thankful for the team who has put so much effort into building out these sites and maintaining the infrastructure,
and I’m saddened to see that work torn down. Likewise I know there are quite a number of combined users, repeaters, and emergency groups who are going to be impacted by this. I hope that we can work with you to get you connected to another site where the pathing
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<p class="MsoNormal">We’re not done. There’s a lot of the core network, and a lot of coverage that doesn’t rely on these DNR sites, and will remain operational. We’ll likely need to do some work to reconsider/rework redundant pathing after this loss. Going
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<p class="MsoNormal">If anyone has any specific notes or suggestions, please send us an email at
<a href="mailto:netops@hamwan.org" target="_blank">netops@hamwan.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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