[HamWAN PSDR] IP space plan

[Bart Kus]

Well, I just applied for a /20 with AMPRNet for HamWAN.  We'll see what 
they say.

--Bart


On 2/7/2013 12:27 PM, Bart Kus wrote:
> I've thought about this quite a bit over the last few months.  I'd 
> like us to take a multi-net approach here.  I think HamWAN is the 
> exact kind of network that Net-44 aims to please, so I'd like to 
> deploy Net-44 subnets here.  This will allow easy peering with ISPs 
> once HamWAN gets an Autonomous System Number (ASN).  However, IPv4 
> address space may be an issue, if not for technical than possibly for 
> political reasons.  So use of Net-44 space may be limited to the most 
> public endpoints of communication.  Only experience will tell.
>
> To mitigate the risks of Net-44 use, I think it makes sense for HamWAN 
> to register (a) public IPv6 block(s).  There ought to be plenty of 
> these around, and it'd be good to avoid NAT where possible.  Just one 
> of these IPv6 /64 networks should be enough for all foreseeable 
> purposes.  The tricky part is it may be impossible to get a block 
> without an ASN.  And it's impossible to get an ASN without existing 
> multi-homed ISP contracts. Correct me if I'm wrong here. Relevant doc 
> <http://www.apnic.net/__data/assets/pdf_file/0009/23994/how-to-get-initial-ipv6-block.pdf>.  
> Have not read it all yet, feel free to decode.  :)
>
> Which leaves us with the old private IP space.  The problem of using 
> this is possible collisions with private IP space used by individuals' 
> home networks.  This can be mitigated by using private IPv6 space, 
> which very few people will be using on their home networks right now.  
> But I suspect that situation will change as time passes and we'll once 
> again be in trouble.
>
> One last consideration is network device compatibility.  Does your 
> VoIP device have IPv6?  How about your (possibly old) home router?  
> Net-44 makes a lot of sense in these scenarios.  What about the 
> devices trying to access HamWAN's resources from the outside world?  
> Does your ISP allow you to route to an IPv6 HamWAN address?  Asking 
> people to dial into IPv6 tunnelling services is a further barrier to 
> entry.
>
> So to wrap it up, I'd like HamWAN to register for a fairly big chunk 
> of Net-44 (/20?), register at least one IPv6 block, and get an ASN.  
> From there we'll have the resources to conduct subnet allocation to 
> users & infrastructure without worrying about collisions.  But in the 
> immediate term, we'll likely end up using private space.  :-/
>
> --Bart
>
>
> On 02/07/2013 11:54 AM, Rob Salsgiver wrote:
>>
>> Greetings all,
>>
>> I may have missed this somewhere on the site, but is there an IP plan 
>> yet?  Are we looking to use 44 net space, or something else?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
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